Over the last year or so I’ve been experimenting with xrumer, scrapebox and various other greyish (I don’t know if anything can be called black any more these days..) seo methods.
While there was quite a bit of positive effect at first, I’m now fairly convinced that these massive amounts of low quality links can do more harm than good in the long term. Sure you might say “ha, big surprise”, but you know nothing in SEO until you test it on your own. Can’t trust any “experts”: those who talk – don’t know, and those who know – don’t talk.
For those unfamiliar with what I’m talking about here: xrumer is a popular piece of software that creates forum profiles and posts and can also post to pretty much any comment form and pass by most conventional verification and spam prevention systems. It’s so powerful that it can create millions of profiles with your links in them.
Since it’s expensive and running it on your own is quite resource intensive and requires quite a bit of calibration and lots of time collecting and cleaning the databases, there are many services that do that for you. Like dripfeedblasts.com – which creates 1k profiles per day (or 30k profiles per month) for $99 per month – this is also the service I used for my testing. It’s biggest benefit is that it’s very easy to use – you just add your signature and homepage links and schedule them to run on a day to day basis.
Scrapebox is a much cheaper and easier to use software that mostly sends comments to blogs and can also handle huge volumes of millions of comments. It also has some great tools to check serps quickly, find out various information about your competition and to find some high PR on topic blog posts – which might in fact be the most useful feature. If you do it right – mostly manually and on topic – blog comments can still be useful, but in massive amount and low quality these links do little good.
Out of about 35 of my new sites I tried these methods on many have received various penalties and dropped out serps, others retained good positions, but mainly due to having other different links of better quality. Some still dance around jumping up and down in the rankings twice a week..
Overall if done in moderation these links too can have a positive effect on the serps, but the efforts outway the benefits and same or better results can be achieved with other low cost and more mainstream methods.
Many people still report different results and argue that these links can form a great seo weight basis for your link feeder sites or for all your hosted content and web 2.0 pages, however I have my doubts about how much “link juice” is actually acquired and pass on there. What are your results?
9 Replies to “Test Results are IN – No More Xrumer!”
I never do it for the main money making site, but I do it on my web2.0 / article sites which inturn links to the main money making site. That is better ..
yeah, but the question is are you seeing any benefits from this? Are you trying to rank the web 2.0 sites or pass more link juice? I did both and I dont think it helps much to the main site. The web 2.0 might rank better though
Interesting post. I have just come across xrumer. I actually employ an overseas worker to build similar forum profiles. About 40 per web page. Works well, all done manually.
What happens if you only make say 150 links a month using xrumer ? Try and make it look more natural to google.
I think consistently is key. If you build 1k links you need to keep it up, month after month.
Very nice post.
I was looking to start using Deep Feeds this next week, have read several good reviews, but it seems it’s not so linear.
Michael did you mix the blasts with other kind of backlinks ?
@Jim, that’s what they usually say trying to sell it to you. Maybe it works for some people, it didn’t for me. Even when it did work in the short term, same or better results can usually be achieved easier with other methods and in the long term these links have little value.
@John, yes, other links did most of the work.
The new version of xrumer 7 is pretty impressive, breaking reCaptcha through their accessibility options. I’ve been combining Xrumer + Ignite SEO to get a mix of different sites for my latest campaign.
I would be curious as to if these penalties leave and what the benefit would be for the links that manage to stick a couple of years down the road. I have always been too paranoid to actually use xrumer and speculated that it would not be worth the risk.
Glad that you shared your experience with us here. I will continue sticking to doing everything by hand and stay with the white hat method.
There’s nothing better than good old manual SEO. I looked into xrumer as well and I completely agree with you Michael. These low quality links can only do much for you. I also tried SE Nuke and I wasn’t impressed at all. It is the same old story for these software programs. If you want to rank you have to spend the time to make it happen. Create a resource that contains quality information. Good post!
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